[firehawk]

tor, on 16 September 2010 - 02:58 AM, said:

Charter a flight or just bribe you to reroute all incoming?

Are you planning a lowball bid with nefarious schemes to keep aircraft noise to keep other potential buyers away?

[Bernard L. Madoff]

firehawk, on 16 September 2010 - 03:59 AM, said:

Are you planning a lowball bid with nefarious schemes to keep aircraft noise to keep other potential buyers away?

I wouldn't buy a camper trailer for $100 where that house is.

http://www.realestat...airns-106720678

[The Claw]

Bernard L. Madoff, on 13 September 2010 - 12:22 PM, said:

If I was showing wildebeeste through I'd do it between 10 - 11AM and 2-4PM. Low jet traffic.

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On 13-Sep-10 at 11:54:50 AEST, seller added the following information:
Due to the intense interest in this property and the high rate of possible inspections (approaching 200) inspection time is now from 2:00pm

Have a close look at the timestamp of Bernard's comment and compare it with the timestamp of the ebay seller's added information. Coincidence?

[Dose]

The Claw, on 16 September 2010 - 10:44 AM, said:

Have a close look at the timestamp of Bernard's comment and compare it with the timestamp of the ebay seller's added information. Coincidence?

WHOOOOOOOSH!
WHAT?!?
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH RHOOOOOOOOAR SHHHHHHHHHHHHH VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
WHAAAAT???

[zaph]

Bernard L. Madoff, on 16 September 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

I wouldn't buy a camper trailer for $100 where that house is.

http://www.realestat...airns-106720678

this place would make 'the castle' look like a quite location.

can you check out the ofi for us TP? a pair of binoculars from the tower would do the trick.

what do think it would rent for? $220 -300 pw?

[staringclown]

Dose, on 16 September 2010 - 12:01 PM, said:

WHOOOOOOOSH!
WHAT?!?
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH RHOOOOOOOOAR SHHHHHHHHHHHHH VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
WHAAAAT???

this is funny regardless of my understanding of it. It's like art...

[Bernard L. Madoff]

Its 0115 and GoCat (Tiger Airways) still hasn't left for Melbourne, but will go very soon say 0145; Continental left for Guam about 45mins ago and the first jet from Perth is 0430 so you'll get some sleep...like having a baby, its just for the rest of your life.

[gigigoodyear]

Sally Periwinkle you were correct.

The seller is using the listing as free advertising but will not go through on any bid below $629,000 advertised elsewhere http://www.homehound...airns+qld+4870/ . The seller gave false and misleading statements to the potential buyers in the Q&A seciton. Could they be legally liable under Australian law?

See the excuse they gave for pulling the auction

"Q: what kind of legal mistake that you have to relist it? Its a good way to get a lot of interest in the property
A: Still waiting on a ruling on this matter, I am led to believe that we did not list information in relation to the sustainability declaration and as such may contravene legislation."

I think that any potential buyer who sees this kind of misrepresentations and oily actions can see what a snake the seller is and should steer clear of the property pronto!

This post has been edited by gigigoodyear: 18 September 2010 - 11:51 AM

[zaph]

gigigoodyear, on 18 September 2010 - 11:46 AM, said:

Sally Periwinkle you were correct.

The seller is using the listing as free advertising but will not go through on any bid below $629,000 advertised elsewhere http://www.homehound...airns+qld+4870/ . The seller gave false and misleading statements to the potential buyers in the Q&A seciton. Could they be legally liable under Australian law?

See the excuse they gave for pulling the auction

"Q: what kind of legal mistake that you have to relist it? Its a good way to get a lot of interest in the property
A: Still waiting on a ruling on this matter, I am led to believe that we did not list information in relation to the sustainability declaration and as such may contravene legislation."

I think that any potential buyer who sees this kind of misrepresentations and oily actions can see what a snake the seller is and should steer clear of the property pronto!

it's back to zero bid in the auction. all i have to do is bid 99c and she's mine. now how does ebay work?

[Sally Periwinkle]

gigigoodyear, on 18 September 2010 - 11:46 AM, said:

Sally Periwinkle you were correct.

The seller is using the listing as free advertising .........

It's not free. It costs a fixed fee of $49.95 on ebay to list a house. There's no final fee. Ebay don't hide the fact that it is only advertising and does not constitute a contract. They are quite open about it. It looks good value. The listing may well lead to a buyer being found.

[gigigoodyear]

Sally Periwinkle, on 18 September 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

It's not free. It costs a fixed fee of $49.95 on ebay to list a house. There's no final fee.

Well...almost free. What I cannot stand is the seller leading all those people in the Q&A when it was just advertising.

[Max Carnage]

Sally Periwinkle, on 18 September 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:

It's not free. It costs a fixed fee of $49.95 on ebay to list a house. There's no final fee. Ebay don't hide the fact that it is only advertising and does not constitute a contract.

That does not negate the possibility that a vendor creates a contract by means of promises and assurances given to the bidders.

If the listers were a business (it's possible they are a REA or PI 'business') I have little doubt this would constitute false or misleading advertising, or bait advertising, all of which carry serious penalties.. See The Office of Fair Trading QLD. Fine print from the agency employed to advertise (eBay) would be irrelevant.

gigigoodyear, do you know what it got up to before they pulled it?

[gigigoodyear]

Max Carnage, on 18 September 2010 - 08:23 PM, said:

That does not negate the possibility that a vendor creates a contract by means of promises and assurances given to the bidders.

If the listers were a business (it's possible they are a REA or PI 'business') I have little doubt this would constitute false or misleading advertising, or bait advertising, all of which carry serious penalties.. See The Office of Fair Trading QLD. Fine print from the agency employed to advertise (eBay) would be irrelevant.

gigigoodyear, do you know what it got up to before they pulled it?

I had no idea but 3 days before end of auction it was just a little bit over $200,000. Unfortunately, I tried google cache but it did not find it.

This post has been edited by gigigoodyear: 19 September 2010 - 12:12 AM

[Big Bear]

gigigoodyear, on 19 September 2010 - 12:09 AM, said:

I had no idea but 3 days before end of auction it was just a little bit over $200,000. Unfortunately, I tried google cache but it did not find it.

I saw it at around $222,000 ish........or thereabouts. Blatant advertising, who in their right mind would have believed that there was a legal issue over sustainability information?

[Dose]

Big Bear, on 19 September 2010 - 06:32 AM, said:

I saw it at around $222,000 ish........or thereabouts. Blatant advertising, who in their right mind would have believed that there was a legal issue over sustainability information?

...who in their right mind would commit 222k to an investment without due...

...oh...

....wait...

[Bernard L. Madoff]

Realy cool this evening. Due weather we were landing on 33, taking off 15 (opp end), landing on 33, Taking off 15. Cool for the tinny skills (double the landing spacing distance so you can get one back up opp end in between), bad for that house.

Deaf by screaming jets...

[dodgydamo]

gigigoodyear, on 18 September 2010 - 11:46 AM, said:

...
The seller gave false and misleading statements to the potential buyers in the Q&A seciton. Could they be legally liable under Australian law?
...

I suspect the e-bay 'advertising' would probably constitute an 'invitation to treat': http://www.accc.gov....l/itemId/322984

$50 seems like a great deal for all the publicity! What do agents charge for 'advertising' these days?

[Sally Periwinkle]

dodgydamo, on 20 September 2010 - 01:30 PM, said:

I suspect the e-bay 'advertising' would probably constitute an 'invitation to treat': http://www.accc.gov....l/itemId/322984

$50 seems like a great deal for all the publicity! What do agents charge for 'advertising' these days?

Yes, $50 could be a great deal.

There is no possibility of the seller unwittingly being required to sell real estate as a result of an ebay listing. A "signed" written contract is required for real estate.

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"Contract of Sale" as a document
Section 126 of the Instruments Act 1958 states that any Contract for the sale of real estate must be "in writing signed by the person to be charged or by a person lawfully authorised in writing by that person".

This means that a simple verbal contract is not enforceable if it relates to the sale of real estate.

http://www.lawyersco...au/contract.asp

That act applies to Victoria but I'm sure other states have similar laws. WA has, here:

Quote

All contracts about the purchase of land must be in writing.

http://www.commerce....nd_do_I_ha.html

This post has been edited by Sally Periwinkle: 20 September 2010 - 11:44 PM

[hamish]

It's an odd property this one. Quite an attractive looking house, and looks like the owners have spent quite a lot of coin on it, but... it's in a rotten location. I don't think queenslanders are real good as far as noise insulation goes either, well, not without spending heaps.

It's not likely to get any better either, as I think it's one of the more rapidly growing towns in Australia, so that airport is just going to get bigger & busier.

[Maria Santa B.A.]

Seems to be still for sale on realestate.com so they appear to have reneged on the ebay auction.