[Max Carnage]

So we get a bit of spam here from time to time. The usual - herbal remedies and cheap Nikes™. But our most recent member submitted something that I couldn't quite bring myself to delete. I set it to hide instead and took a couple of days to think it over.

As days passed I found myself revisiting the thread as often as I checked the forum. Yep, it still looked like spam. The kind where a link gets mixed in with repeated keywords in order to bump the spammer's site up the google ladder. I still couldn't delete it. Why? Because I think it may be art.

This piece is titled simply "The premier bui1ders are demanded of being perfectionists" and it is, IMHO, beautiful.

JACKI said:

The architectural and the construction field is rather advancing day by day and generations over generations. The success of this field to a great extent depends on the ever-growing interest of people for the new things and the quest to incorporate the same in their dream house as well. Thus it will be true that today man though dreams, but has no preconceived notion of the structure and the building as such. The interest of man today depends on the new materials available in the market which best suits his desires. The mind thus will be completely blank when he approached the builder primarily. This ideology is somewhat known to human beings themselves as they are very well aware of their limitations and hence always tries to approach the Premier H0me Bui1ders to guide them, rather than depending on the new and sprouting home bui1ders.

The notion of approaching premier h0me bui1ders is a step towards security as per their mind’s suggestions and for the sake of its satisfaction. The selection of the premier h0me bui1der is rather difficult today with the availability of some many builders of whom everyone is trying their level best to reach the pinnacle of perfection in all respects. This strategy though increases the chances for a competition, but it will be rather in a healthier way, providing each and every builder with a respectable amount of customer base as such. The familiarity and aptitude of the builder to incorporate the respective demands of the consumer will always been taken into account in his selection.

Above all the premier h0me bui1ders are rather demanded of being the perfectionists in all respects, as anything less than that will be discarded by the consumers. The level of perfection may vary but to be a good builder and to have a good customer base, he will be demanded of, to satisfy the generalized demands set by the society for a builder. A consumer will generally expect certain general qualities, which according to them a builder should necessarily have. The most important among them will be the general know-how of the market strategy and the creativeness in the design. Both the factors will too have its sub divisions like the cost effectiveness and the incorporation of their demands in the maximum possible ways. The builders are free to give their suggestions for some integration which he might think to be improbable, but only in a mild and polite way. A consumer will never like excuses and discouraging of his ideas, and hence builder has to take utmost care while putting forward the reasons for the same.

[Bullshark]

I have an alley in Melbourne Ferntree attended a BBQ at the new property, while homes and certainly diverse and robyst Wheeler's Hill, or the Heatherton, sister of where I had the pleasure of renting properties than Mirvac Property building was caused by a property for 14 monthts, I was ready to design deficiencies.

A brick, single-glazed windows and "green such as solar hot water gardens" a complete lack of investment were mainly high-quality plastic grass ideal case and the property around the facilities and services made or were not poor.

BBQ in the conversation and work, where an order for a German engineer and was only surprised at the poor quality of construction, neglect to detail and lack of any ideas for a story on there A gentleman arrived at the discussion turned toward engineering "green".

What standard is expected in Germany, sorely lacking in Australia.

[Max Carnage]

Perfect!

[staringclown]

Max Carnage, on 18 September 2010 - 09:30 PM, said:

So we get a bit of spam here from time to time. The usual - herbal remedies and cheap Nikes™. But our most recent member submitted something that I couldn't quite bring myself to delete. I set it to hide instead and took a couple of days to think it over.

As days passed I found myself revisiting the thread as often as I checked the forum. Yep, it still looked like spam. The kind where a link gets mixed in with repeated keywords in order to bump the spammer's site up the google ladder. I still couldn't delete it. Why? Because I think it may be art.

This piece is titled simply "The premier bui1ders are demanded of being perfectionists" and it is, IMHO, beautiful.

That piece has a lot of programatic specificity about it. Now I know what Kevin was doing from that hospital bed. With help from Yoda.

[Sean]

hmm, so how does it work, use google translate to translate some sensibly written prose into Chinese and back again.

[urchin]

that's what it sounds like to me. machine translation.

[RumpledElf]

Gotta love getting a spammer that hasn't yet been reported to stopforumspam.com

[staringclown]

Bullshark, on 19 September 2010 - 12:09 AM, said:

I have an alley in Melbourne Ferntree attended a BBQ at the new property, while homes and certainly diverse and robyst Wheeler's Hill, or the Heatherton, sister of where I had the pleasure of renting properties than Mirvac Property building was caused by a property for 14 monthts, I was ready to design deficiencies.

A brick, single-glazed windows and "green such as solar hot water gardens" a complete lack of investment were mainly high-quality plastic grass ideal case and the property around the facilities and services made or were not poor.

BBQ in the conversation and work, where an order for a German engineer and was only surprised at the poor quality of construction, neglect to detail and lack of any ideas for a story on there A gentleman arrived at the discussion turned toward engineering "green".

What standard is expected in Germany, sorely lacking in Australia.

That is very good. Beartrap couldn't have said it better.

[Solomon]

Bullshark, on 19 September 2010 - 12:09 AM, said:

I have an alley in Melbourne Ferntree attended a BBQ at the new property, while homes and certainly diverse and robyst Wheeler's Hill, or the Heatherton, sister of where I had the pleasure of renting properties than Mirvac Property building was caused by a property for 14 monthts, I was ready to design deficiencies.

A brick, single-glazed windows and "green such as solar hot water gardens" a complete lack of investment were mainly high-quality plastic grass ideal case and the property around the facilities and services made or were not poor.

BBQ in the conversation and work, where an order for a German engineer and was only surprised at the poor quality of construction, neglect to detail and lack of any ideas for a story on there A gentleman arrived at the discussion turned toward engineering "green".

What standard is expected in Germany, sorely lacking in Australia.

Are you really trying Bullshark?
Or do speak you always this way.

[urchin]

i was actually hoping that we would have a real creative writing thread popping up when i saw this, though. given the recent revelation that we have a novelist in our midst, not to mention a world-class brutally alcoholic poet and a number of people who obviously know their way around a thesaurus...

[Bernard L. Madoff]

urchin, on 19 September 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

i was actually hoping that we would have a real creative writing thread popping up when i saw this, though. given the recent revelation that we have a novelist in our midst, not to mention a world-class brutally alcoholic poet and a number of people who obviously know their way around a thesaurus...

Typical...just leave us folk that can traverse a differential equation out in the cold. Begging for dimes outside Starbucks in the snow wrapped in a damp blanket because we can intergrate and differentiate but know nowt of agricola from agricoli.

Hmmmmmphhhh.

I see your Chaucer and raise you a Descartes. Shakespeare slept with goats fo goodness sake compared with the classical Bernoulli. Longfellow would have been wiping defecant from Newtons botty had they been introduced. Da Vinci was inspiring those above with his physics, maths and experimental aeronautics; He only wrote and painted when pissed for goodness sake.

[Max Carnage]

urchin, on 19 September 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

i was actually hoping that we would have a real creative writing thread popping up when i saw this, though. given the recent revelation that we have a novelist in our midst, not to mention a world-class brutally alcoholic poet and a number of people who obviously know their way around a thesaurus...

We can do that. Just as a thread can go off-topic, so it can return (or we can start a second one).

I've been inspired by Ummester's novel which I am reading in parts. So inspired I've committed* to NanoWriMo 2010:

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What is NaNoWriMo?

National Novel Writing Month is a fun, seat-of-your-pants approach to novel writing. Participants begin writing November 1. The goal is to write a 175-page (50,000-word) novel by midnight, November 30.

Valuing enthusiasm and perseverance over painstaking craft, NaNoWriMo is a novel-writing program for everyone who has thought fleetingly about writing a novel but has been scared away by the time and effort involved.

Because of the limited writing window, the ONLY thing that matters in NaNoWriMo is output. It's all about quantity, not quality. The kamikaze approach forces you to lower your expectations, take risks, and write on the fly.

Make no mistake: You will be writing a lot of crap. And that's a good thing. By forcing yourself to write so intensely, you are giving yourself permission to make mistakes. To forgo the endless tweaking and editing and just create. To build without tearing down.

http://www.nanowrimo.org/

* I will certainly fail, and almost surely give up. I have much working against me. I'll be in my first month of a new job. It's a short-term position with longer possibilities, so I'll be trying particularly hard to impress my new bosses. On the other hand I'm taking a week-long break. This could go either way - I'll have more time to work but more incentive to be off diving or hiking. Oh, and I'm fairly lazy and can't write dialogue to save myself.

My story (I'm allowed to plan, just not write) is a supernatural techno-romance murder mystery incorporating global financial conspiracy. Without vampires.

[RumpledElf]

You want to get your creative writing juices flowing?

I was looking for something completely different one time and found http://oneword.com/ this little site.

Strange stuff.

Turns out the writer I want to hire for one of the other sites is a regular there

[Max Carnage]

RumpledElf, on 19 September 2010 - 11:44 PM, said:

http://oneword.com/

Neat. A simpler and shorter Write or Die.

[urchin]

NaNoWriMo sounds intriguing. its nice to have an ready-made justification for writing crap. I will have to think about potential topics. 50k words in 30 days doesn't sound all that bad--especially if it doesn't have to be good...

[Max Carnage]

urchin, on 20 September 2010 - 11:13 AM, said:

50k words in 30 days doesn't sound all that bad--especially if it doesn't have to be good...

So... did you commit?

I've got 2/3rds of a plot outlined. It looks very b-grade. I started with something for everyone: "supernatural techno-romance murder mystery incorporating global financial conspiracy", but have dropped the first, third and fourth themes. Probably. And I added a trebuchet and a death-by-shovel event.

Now I'm just looking forward to actually putting words down; midnight Sunday is kick-off. Having a holiday on Tuesday should help get things rolling.

Is anybody else up for the challenge?

[ponder]

Max Carnage, on 25 October 2010 - 10:01 PM, said:

So... did you commit?

I've got 2/3rds of a plot outlined. It looks very b-grade. I started with something for everyone: "supernatural techno-romance murder mystery incorporating global financial conspiracy", but have dropped the first, third and fourth themes. Probably. And I added a trebuchet and a death-by-shovel event.

Now I'm just looking forward to actually putting words down; midnight Sunday is kick-off. Having a holiday on Tuesday should help get things rolling.

Is anybody else up for the challenge?

I have consistently failed to commence NaNoWriMo for five straight years now Mainly through over-commitments ... but also through a fear of failure, I think.

Will this year be different? Probably not. Although I *do* have a workable plot now, which would probably sustain me for 30 days and/or 50k words. I mean, its no "supernatural techno-romance murder mystery incorporating global financial conspiracy" ... but its probably got leg. Hmm.

[ponder]

RumpledElf, on 19 September 2010 - 11:44 PM, said:

You want to get your creative writing juices flowing?

I was looking for something completely different one time and found http://oneword.com/ this little site.

Strange stuff.

Turns out the writer I want to hire for one of the other sites is a regular there

Great site, RE! There goes my day. And probably my NaNoWriMo 2010 convictions, too

[Max Carnage]

Do it! I dare you...

I'm having a shot because my fear of never doing anything meaningful grew bigger than my fear of failure...

[ponder]

Max Carnage, on 25 October 2010 - 11:26 PM, said:

Do it! I dare you...

I'm having a shot because my fear of never doing anything meaningful grew bigger than my fear of failure...

If I *do* do it, I'll be getting inspiration from Simon Haynes - a Perth-based author who has an impressive (and generous) collection of writing articles on his website: http://www.spacejock...u/Articles.html

He's a huge advocate of NaNo, and has fleshed-out several of his books through the process. He offers lots of advice on participating too (http://www.spacejock.../NaNoWriMo.html), including "Write in 500 word chunks, 4 per day. Should only take 20-30 mins each. One first thing, one at lunch, two in the evening with a break."