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US - MONEY SUPPLY UPDATE

#1 User is offline   cobran20 

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:52 PM

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The worries over inflation seem to be never ending and while it’s clear that there’s an increasing risk of cost push inflation via oil prices, many indicators are now pointing to moderate inflation at best. The most recent CPI data showed signs of disinflation, the ECRI’s latest reading on their future inflation gauge showed a new low (which Lakshman Achuthan said was indicative of “subdued” inflation) and the ISM price index is in contraction range at 45.

Although there’s been persistent fears about the monetary base explosion in recent years and endless hyperinflation predictions based on a mythical idea of how the banking system works, the broader money supply has also remained subdued (the Shadow Stats M3 composite is showing below trend growth of ~3% YoY). And that’s not only a USA phenomenon. We’re seeing signs of a full blown deflating money supply in Europe:

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So where’ the inflation coming from? As I’ve been repeating for the last few years, it appears to be largely a China phenomenon. While most economists are busy griping about the “irresponsible” Fed and ECB, they seem to be missing the one central bank in the world that is beyond reckless – the People’s Bank of China. The PBOC has been cranking out money supply growth at double digit rates for a decade now. M2 (the broadest aggregate published in China) has been growing at an average pace of 17% per year over the last 15 years! As they build cities in the middle of nowhere and implement the greatest central planning scheme ever known to man the printing press has been red hot. And this endless printing has no doubt had an impact on commodity prices. After all, there are few people in the world who would question the commodity demand story in China.

Americans have a tendency to focus too much on their own backyard when viewing broad economic trends. When viewing the inflation trends it’s best to recognize that we reside in a global economy and that the problems in the economy aren’t solely due to poor US government actions. The broad global inflation trends point to a clear bifurcation where the developed world is obsessed with austerity and the emerging world is printing beyond imagination. While I don’t agree with much of what the Fed has done over the last few years, we should be more careful about hyperbolic rhetoric that implies that the Fed is driving us into a ditch. If anything, the Fed is the baby in the backseat with the toy steering wheel and mom and dad (Congress and the Treasury) actually believe the baby is the one controlling the car



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Posted 02 December 2011 - 06:07 PM

Jim Rogers: QE3 has already started!
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:31 PM

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The PBOC has been cranking out money supply growth at double digit rates for a decade now. M2 (the broadest aggregate published in China) has been growing at an average pace of 17% per year over the last 15 years! As they build cities in the middle of nowhere and implement the greatest central planning scheme ever known to man the printing press has been red hot. And this endless printing has no doubt had an impact on commodity prices. After all, there are few people in the world who would question the commodity demand story in China.


I'm glad somebody else has noticed. Prior to the GFC the Chinese printed 11% more cash per annum and after 15 to 16%.

China still uses the monetary system the West used in the 1960's. Exchange controls, high bank reserves. Funny thing is the West printed at 15% in the 1970's as well.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 08:56 PM

I think I will call bollocks on that, unless someone can explain how a growth in Chinese money supply has impacted world commodity prices.

I printed up 10 Trillion monopoly money dollars yesterday. As far as I can tell, the price of commodities has only increased when measured in monopoly dollars (the guy at the servo told me that he wouldn't sell me a tank of petrol even for $10T), but it was still AUD70, if I wanted to pay in AUD.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 09:54 PM

View PostPeachy, on 04 December 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

I think I will call bollocks on that, unless someone can explain how a growth in Chinese money supply has impacted world commodity prices.

I printed up 10 Trillion monopoly money dollars yesterday. As far as I can tell, the price of commodities has only increased when measured in monopoly dollars (the guy at the servo told me that he wouldn't sell me a tank of petrol even for $10T), but it was still AUD70, if I wanted to pay in AUD.


nice post :thumbsup:

Also China is different then western world in the 60's or 70's as they have big margin of improving in productivity. I am not saying that their money growth is sustainable but it is as tricky to say that it isn't. Infact when you consider 6% CPI and 8% GDP growth you don't have much left over on monetary growth
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 12:58 AM

View Postboz, on 04 December 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

Infact when if you consider believe 6% CPI and 8% GDP growth you don't have much left over on monetary growth

Fixed it for you.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 02:24 AM

View PostTurkey, on 05 December 2011 - 12:58 AM, said:

Fixed it for you.


ok, you might be right,
but even if CPI is at 8% and GDP at 6% that add up the same
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:06 AM

View PostPeachy, on 04 December 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

I think I will call bollocks on that, unless someone can explain how a growth in Chinese money supply has impacted world commodity prices.



The Chinese government deliberately runs a monetary policy aimed at export, investment and capturing markets. The do everything they can prevent China buying anything but essential commodities from overseas.

However China's current activity places great demand on commodities. At the same the price is reduced on manufactured goods.
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