[Bernard L. Madoff]

Why is Fat Yak out of the keg cloudy and clear out of a bottle?

[tor]

Bernard L. Madoff, on 29 June 2010 - 02:41 AM, said:

Ahhh, beer ratings. Like stock ratings, risk ratings, wine ratings, standard of living, restaurants etc.

Worthless fluff for the masses, where no one is contrarian, always fall in with consensus. I'm self flagellating for wasting a joule clicking on a ratings link.

I've lost count of the lowly rated (wine, restaurant's, beer, scotch, bonds, currencies, etc) which I've found superb and and the highly rated that have proved rubbish.

Totally agree to a point, some of my favourites are favourites for reasons other than technical flavour points (Tui would be a good example, technically it is a crap beer in the same league as VB, tooheys and other mass marketed swill).

And, in fairness to the site, you will see an awful lot of people talking about session beers, Fat Yak was one. Whilst at an intellectual and respect of craftsmanship a big old angry beer is absolutely amazing you just can't drink many of them.

Most of my highest ranked beers are really in the 1 or 2 at a time type area. Too much flavour, too much alcohol etc.

When they talk about session beers they are talking about a beer which you can have a good sit down with some friends, talk sh*t, lie desperately and do it for a couple of hours with all the bonhomie associated, fat yak I think is considered one of those.

To correlate with scotch (which you are probably more of the same mindset), Lagavulin is absolutely great but it is also way over the top in flavours and probably shouldn't be your drink for the whole night, moving to something like Scapa or a lighter highland style is probably going to be enjoyable.

[tor]

Bernard L. Madoff, on 29 June 2010 - 03:14 AM, said:

Why is Fat Yak out of the keg cloudy and clear out of a bottle?

I wasn't aware it was as I have never had it from the keg but there are two main reasons for cloudy beers:

1. The cellarman doesn't keep his lines clean, you will normally notice this very quickly from the musty evil smell in the glass.
2. the beer is "on lees" meaning they don't completely filter out all the yeast.

A few beers do this as it helps the beer age in interesting ways, some home brewers build their yeast starters from "live" beers like this. Mostly it only happens with your maltier beers (lagers and pilsners don't tend to age well).

From a keg is fairly unusual in this country, Coopers would be the only one where you regularly see super cloudy at the end of a keg.

[Bernard L. Madoff]

There are two venues locally that have the Yak, both a bit up market and its cloudy in the Coopers style. The photo on the website is cloudy as well ( http://farm4.static...._38dbb8a67b.jpg ).

Yes regarding flavours, I need big flavours (which is why the Belgian Monk beers are faves) so I'm probably not a critic worth noting.

Maybe I should just filter ethyl alcohol through some yeast.

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Lagavulin

Now you're talking.

[Turkey]

tor, on 29 June 2010 - 03:15 AM, said:

When they talk about session beers they are talking about a beer which you can have a good sit down with some friends, talk sh*t, lie desperately and do it for a couple of hours with all the bonhomie associated, fat yak I think is considered one of those.

He he, I didn't realise there was another kind.

[jas25t]

melb casino is the only place i've seen and drunk fat yak on tap

[hamish]

I wanted to take this shop home with me... so many beers, so little time.

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[Turkey]

Is it just me or is Crown Lager the most awesome session beer ever?

I can drink the stuff like it's water and carry on all night. Not heavy in the stomach, not too bitter or too sweet and enough alcohol to make me suitably silly after a while.

I've had a couple tonight and it's very tempting to flatten the rest of 'em but I need to pace myself because tomorrow is going to be a big one.

[staringclown]

Turkey, on 25 January 2011 - 12:34 PM, said:

Is it just me or is Crown Lager the most awesome session beer ever?

I can drink the stuff like it's water and carry on all night. Not heavy in the stomach, not too bitter or too sweet and enough alcohol to make me suitably silly after a while.

I've had a couple tonight and it's very tempting to flatten the rest of 'em but I need to pace myself because tomorrow is going to be a big one.

Well TBH crownies are what bogans drink to feel posh. I think it's the taller bottle. Having said that melbourne bitter is my session beer of choice. While draped in the flag tomorrow at a barbie it's what I have planned.

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[Turkey]

staringclown, on 25 January 2011 - 12:43 PM, said:

Well TBH crownies are what bogans drink to feel posh. I think it's the taller bottle. Having said that melbourne bitter is my session beer of choice. While draped in the flag tomorrow at a barbie it's what I have planned.

I probably tick the bogan box but I drink it because I don't get all fat and bloated and I can keep drinking them all night rather than to feel posh. I get full on most other beers after a while and have to hit the spirits.

You're probably onto something with the bogan theory; I have a relative I'd rather not and he usually has a few Crowns around the place (and isn't shy to help himself to mine).

[staringclown]

Turkey, on 25 January 2011 - 12:59 PM, said:

I probably tick the bogan box but I drink it because I don't get all fat and bloated and I can keep drinking them all night rather than to feel posh. I get full on most other beers after a while and have to hit the spirits.

You're probably onto something with the bogan theory; I have a relative I'd rather not and he usually has a few Crowns around the place (and isn't shy to help himself to mine).

Don't feel too bad. I tick more than a few bogan boxes. My southern friends insist that being raised in qld practically assures bogan status. I disagree and see it as only an 80% probability. Happy Australia day. A businessman for aussie of the year. (Obviously ricky ponting doesn't deserve it)
Edit it's ponting not pontig

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[Bernard L. Madoff]

Crownies are great. Totally tasteless Ice cold swiggers when hot.

The rest taste awful when not ice cold. The same when icey.

12 guys in a shout at a sesh happy hour, combined income $2M pa, a latecomer, what are you having? Whatever's on the go in the jugs.

99% Carlton Draught from experience

Another occasion, discussing the smoke in Talisker or rejecting the tannins in a Pepperjack (?).

[tor]

staringclown, on 25 January 2011 - 12:43 PM, said:

Well TBH crownies are what bogans drink to feel posh. I think it's the taller bottle. Having said that melbourne bitter is my session beer of choice. While draped in the flag tomorrow at a barbie it's what I have planned.

Ages since I had a crown. Back before Chuck Hahn tried to bring some decent beers to the aussie mass market (Hahn premium, James Squire etc) it was fairly popular.

I don't think it uses Pride of Ringwood hops which I think is what gives most of the others their metallic aftertaste.

When Hahn premium came out it took over the place of "Cold, low taste no aftertaste" beer for me. Then Chuck left Hahn and that went downhill pretty rapidly. Shortly after James Squire Amber Ale and Little Creatures became my session beers of choice but they are both pretty strong flavoured.

[tor]

Been drinking a fair bit of Brewdog recently. Their Punk IPA is nice if you are a hophead.

The labels come off a little bit "we're eXtreme and cool and sh*t" but the proof is in the tasting. The Punk IPA has similar floral hops to Little Creatures but amped up quite a bit. There have been a few times when I have moved past them in the fridge because such a strong flavour was not what I was after. But they are good. Highly recommend grabbing a 4 pack (~$16) and having one.

[staringclown]

Beer wars: big retail v Foster's

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Beer has become the new battleground in the supermarket price war after Australia's biggest brewer, Foster's, pulled key beer brands from Coles and Woolworths upon learning of a plan to sell them for $28 a slab - well below cost.

The Age has learned that Foster's, in a late-night operation this month, stopped the delivery of tens of thousands of slabs of VB, Carlton Draught and Pure Blonde to Coles' First Choice liquor stores and Woolworths' Dan Murphy's chain.

Predatory pricing doesn't seem so bad when beer is involved.

[tor]

staringclown, on 23 March 2011 - 09:38 AM, said:

Predatory pricing doesn't seem so bad when beer is involved.

One of the retailer analyst guys on ABC24 was talking about it. He was saying that by doing the undercharging other retailers (that can't compete by price) will avoid that brand and that it can also destroy the brand image resulting in the brand just not existing in a few years.

I thought that would a shame until I saw the brands they were talking about. We have had a plethora of dreck foisted on us over the past few years[1].

If any of these were affected I'd be sad though http://www.ratebeer....y/australia/14/

[1] Blonde I think is the most annoying, it isn't a blonde style beer it is a mediocre lager and beer has bugger all carbohydrates anyway. Oh I hate those.

[Charles Bukowski]

4 XXXX is really rank beer. and drink enough of it your farts will kill animals for days.

[jas25t]

tor, on 23 March 2011 - 05:47 PM, said:

One of the retailer analyst guys on ABC24 was talking about it. He was saying that by doing the undercharging other retailers (that can't compete by price) will avoid that brand and that it can also destroy the brand image resulting in the brand just not existing in a few years.

I thought that would a shame until I saw the brands they were talking about. We have had a plethora of dreck foisted on us over the past few years[1].

If any of these were affected I'd be sad though http://www.ratebeer....y/australia/14/

[1] Blonde I think is the most annoying, it isn't a blonde style beer it is a mediocre lager and beer has bugger all carbohydrates anyway. Oh I hate those.

The gits that think they are doing the right thing for their health by drinking it, and don't realise the alchohol content has all the sugar in it, sh*t me more than the beer itself.

[staringclown]

tor, on 23 March 2011 - 05:47 PM, said:

One of the retailer analyst guys on ABC24 was talking about it. He was saying that by doing the undercharging other retailers (that can't compete by price) will avoid that brand and that it can also destroy the brand image resulting in the brand just not existing in a few years.

I thought that would a shame until I saw the brands they were talking about. We have had a plethora of dreck foisted on us over the past few years[1].

If any of these were affected I'd be sad though http://www.ratebeer....y/australia/14/

[1] Blonde I think is the most annoying, it isn't a blonde style beer it is a mediocre lager and beer has bugger all carbohydrates anyway. Oh I hate those.

Thanks for the list of the top 50! Wig and Pen have two in the top 20. (Thems canberra) If you're in canberra possibly the only good pub. I like their IPA but 4 pints is usually enough.

Then I move on to wine... Probably OT in the beer thread but I am amazed how cheaply I can get good NZ sauv blanc for when I buy 6 at a time from woolies. $12 per bottle.

House prices high but no rebellion in this land cos grog is cheap.