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sydney3000, on 19 May 2012 - 04:07 AM, said:

How many people and hours are spent on refining and adding to World of Warcraft so that all those young resources can spend billions of hours wiling away their time.
Further, are they going to offer these games for free.
If not, how are the young going to pay for them?
I accept her hypothesis.
If you develop a large enough think-tank, you will generate some ideas for the future.
I think Kevin Rudd tried to do that in Canberra in his first term as Prime Minister.
I'm not sure how many of the Future's Forum's ideas were ever implemented.

The basic needs still exist.
Food, water, shelter, and nowadays energy supply.
I could possibly add procreation.
I can't see how these can be supplied by virtual reality.
I like my escapism just as much as anyone.
That's part of the reason why I come to this online forum, and operate under an alias.
But when I get up from this computer, I have to go pee, or eat, or work, so that I can return on occasion.

I would say that Jane McGonigal is laughing all the way to the bank, because the more people she can get playing her games the richer she becomes, or the longer she keeps her job. Many people claim their work is changing the world, or will. That doesn't mean we should all do their particular work.

This is naive thinking, I'm sorry S3000.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I can't envisage a world where we all (the whole population) just sits around and plays games all day. The fact that more young people are, tells me rather that our leisure pursuit has shifted, and may explain why obesity is on the rise. Even Wii Fitness couldn't solve that.

Edit: I wanted to add Syd, that I have found this a fascinating conversation.
I'm sorry if I'm coming over a little harsh on your thinking.
That doesn't mean I'm not listening. I am. I guess I'm simply wanting to temper your enthusiasm for what you think might change the world.
But I look forward to your next post, and I did watch the woman's talk all the way through.
Just because I'm old, doesn't mean I can't learn something.

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This is the real crux of the matter as I understand it.
Agents don't wont other agents under-cutting the market, which will quickly force prices down.
I thought the role of the Agent was to get a sale, for a price that was agreeable to the seller and the buyer.
But NO; the other agents want to ensure that their prices don't get devalued.
So they prosecute the poor chaps who are just trying to make a living.

This is going to be a difficult tension in coming years as house prices continue to fall.
How much percentage less, are Agents allowed to sell under the asking price; given that they are not moving any properties?

staringclown, on 17 May 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

I was vaccinated against polio as a child. I remember lining up for my sugar cube.
My aunt was permanently crippled all her life.
My parents wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm a parent.
All my children were vaccinated.
Our babies were given triple antigen against german measles and mumps.

When I worked in a particular field, I was vaccinated against Hepatitis B.

I'm a grandparent.
My wife and I are soon to receive our shots for whooping cough, because of our grandchildren.

All of these injections carried a level of risk.
I accept that.
To suggest I understand why parents would not do this, would be lying.
I cannot comprehend, why they would not take every precaution, no matter if there are risks.
We have got too soft and sensitive in a whole range of areas of life, and it is going to come back to bite us.
Toughen up.
All of life is risk.
In this case, the benefits far outweigh the risks, as far as I'm concerned.

Tor,
Nice rant.
You are really passionate about this.
As am I.
What a mob of drongo's.

sydney3000, on 11 May 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

This is meant to stir; right!
You're baiting us, and wanting us to bite??
You can't be serious.
Behind that facebook, twitter and linkedin accounts are whole groups of people doing physical labour, so that you can enjoy your networking.
Have you ever met any of the people who lay the cables, fix the exchanges, build the satellites, or launch them.
This isn't some leisure activity.
This is real genuine traditional "work", which pays (money), for their time and expertise.

I'm at a loss, about what else to say other than;
you live in a total fantasy, my son, and so do the rest of your generation, if they truly believe this philosophy.
I would suggest you get off the hooch, and take a look around at the real world.
It doesn't run on fairy floss.

 sydney3000, on 11 May 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

Sydney3,
Your post disturbs me.
I'm struggling to fully articulate why.
Perhaps its my Protestant work ethic, that I was raised with. "A fair days work for a fair day's pay."
Perhaps its my belief that labour is our lot in life, and there is no such thing as a "free lunch".
Perhaps its just my disbelief that this person thinks they can just bludge off the system.
ie; (Who contributed to his HECS so that he could get his degrees? - Where did the government get that money?)
ie; (How does his parents supply him with a roof over his head and food on the table?)
ie; (Where does he get his "allowance", each week to support his "devil may care", attitude? - most girls I know like to be entertained - wined and dined/movie/outings, etc)

I'm thinking that if this attitude becomes entrenched what does it do to our whole social structure?
Maybe the younger generation think they can construct a better model, by just waiting for the old one to die away.
My history tells me, that most models have been tried and all have been found wanting in some shape or form.
Freedom is an elusive quality. If you think you have it and you control it, you can lose it.
I don't know.
There's just something in that philosophy that doesn't add up.
I see it in the conundrum of; "having his cake and eating it at the same time."
I too would like to just sit around at the expense of others; but I would know that I wasn't contributing, rather I was merely a consumer.

I'm sure your friend, is a nice person S3000, so don't get me wrong. I don't mean him, or anyone else personally, when I say these things.